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防弹少年团是否实至名归? 防弹少年团大赏实至名归:2016MMA大赏结束了

来源:sc115.com | 2018-01-13

标签: 实至名归 防弹 少年 猪肉 大赏

第一,MMA看的是音源,跟销量没关系。

第二,四连跟MMA没有关系,MMA因为看的是音源,跟金唱片和MAMA的“年度专辑”不一致是常事,无论是劳尔说“我们竟然丢了年专”还是阿米说“竟然抢走了茶蛋一个年专我们很厉害了”,都没啥意思。给你们看看历年MMA最佳专辑感受一下,跟大家熟悉的画风不太一样吧?

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防弹的粉丝们呢,希望大家要么拿出数据来说防弹就应该是年度专辑的获得者,要么就闷声发大财,在非公共舆论空间里大家其乐融融撒花庆祝一下,反正奖已经是防弹的了,这是既定事实,劳尔再气也没用。但“实至名归”、“当之无愧”这样的词,在还没摆出硬数据之前,还是斟酌斟酌再用吧。不能大肆庆祝的委屈,说到底还是因为拿奖拿得不够理直气壮,要么怪自家爱豆成绩不够好,要么怪自己投票不够努力,要么怪MMA评选标准有问题,反正,这是在这种情况下拿大赏的代价,往好听了说,也算是欲戴王冠必承其重?

看很多评论发现还有属性不明的同学凑热闹跑来算去年账的,这说好了:咱们得一码归一码,别弄出“今年别人抢你们你们去年还抢大棒看苍天饶过谁”的假象。2015年茶蛋在金唱片和MAMA拿年度专辑都是百万销量说话没得说,首尔歌谣大赏音源+专辑销量 40%,评委 30%,投票 20%,搜索 10%,EXO和大棒音源和销量互相碾压,评委和搜索这种灵活项谁都不能控制,两家谁得奖都在情理之中;至于去年MMA的年度专辑,大棒去年发的都是单曲专根本都没发专辑,说茶蛋抢了大棒年专的,请拿证据证明大棒用两首歌的音源怼过了EXO十首歌乃至算上后续十四首歌的音源。茶蛋去年拿的大赏,没什么理亏的,都拿得出数据来匹配,所以属性不明的就不必来跟风落井下石了。

更新:看来大家的争论集中在去年MMA上,我查了一上午也没找到确切的数据,这个没有实锤,我不知道《M》第8第9和《EXODUS》主打第26、49具体数据差距差了多少,这个差距能不能用百大榜外的另外12首补回来,但起码是有可能的吧?毕竟另外12首又不是0,整张听的人也不是没有。有哪家能拿出具体的数据,我会根据结果立刻修改答案的。另外,出场的也是【个别】粉丝,我一不上升全体,二不上升爱豆。

二次更新:鸣谢评论区爱丽丝同学提供了Gaon的一组数据,虽然MMA看的是melon,Gaon和melon具体数值上应该有差距,但趋势应该差不多。我们假设认为Gaon的数据有参考价值,那么最有用的两张统计数据和一张2015MMA颁奖典礼的重要截图如下:

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三张图结论如下:

1.《M》的专辑下载量大于EXODUS正规二辑,小于EXODUS正规+后续总和。从颁奖礼截图看到了,MMA算的是正规+后续总和(获奖歌曲也放了后续主打love me right和正规主打call me baby两首),因为是repackage的关系而不是独立新作品的关系,比如说,后续里的call me baby和正规里的call me baby在年末一起算成绩,真的就是同一首歌,这没毛病。如果想吐槽傻帽商人嘴脸用多版促销刷成绩,这是另一码事。

2. 流媒体Bigbang算的是四张单曲专8首歌,按照下载比例,《M》专两首大概占八首歌的31.9%,成绩大概为101,325,270(我用计算器按下载比例X流媒体总数敲出来的,省略了小数点后5位)EXO正规10首+后续14首歌(有10首重叠)+December,2014 25首歌是139,634,130,December2014是一首三无小单曲,前百榜单里都没有,不可能差出4000万流媒体量,因此流媒体还是EXODUS正规+后续总和>《M》>EXODUS正规辑。

综上,如果Gaon趋势基本可靠,那么按照MMA的评审标准,EXO正规+后续的下载量和流媒体量均高于《M》,投票EXO也是一位,所以拿年度专辑没什么说的。

我们只是就事论事,MMA就是这么算的,BIGBANG去年的成绩有目共睹,但最后算数是不管“你们拿24首(其实是14首)跟我们两首比有意思吗”这种想法的。说到底去年MMA年度艺人和MAMA年度艺人都颁给了BIGBANG,在这两个颁奖礼上BIGBANG还是压过EXO一头的。论单曲EXO肯定比不过BIGBANG,这没话说,但BIGBANG出四首单曲专就是摆明了不参与年专竞争的意思,非说“BIGBANG随便两首就能碾压EXO全专拿年度专辑”,我也是不服气的。

我把数据能摆的都摆在这儿了,非常感谢提供数据讨论的同学,我还是喜欢这种用数据说话而不是空口无凭做判断的讨论。所以,对于所有理所当然地认为去年EXO拿年度专辑是名不副实的朋友们,我绕了这么一大圈费了这么大劲最后还是维持原判:

咱们得一码归一码,别弄出“今年别人抢你们你们去年还抢大棒看苍天饶过谁”的假象。

茶蛋去年拿的大赏,没什么理亏的,都拿得出数据来匹配。

==============Back to 2016 ==================

好了,好话说完了。我不针对防弹,该提醒各家粉丝的也提醒完了——但是MMA,我就很有意见了。

我大概知道MMA怎么想:想尽量不得罪人,顾得周全,三家势头最盛的平分猪肉,Twice年歌没话说,年艺如果是按照今年这组艺人(及其组合成员作品?)全部音源累计,那么从去年11月算起,茶蛋有冬专Sing For You,正规三辑,正规三辑后续,Dancing King(姑且不算成员曲,加起来那就不得了了,不用我列举了吧),加一起数据是三家最大没跑;那么如果想分猪肉,就只能把年专分出去,毕竟…这张特别专有23首歌,不清不楚地加一加,也许能超过呢。

为什么不清不楚呢?

我们先用谁都看得到的数据来对比一下这张年度专辑和EXO正规三辑在melon月榜上的状况。

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不管你怎么比,比发行月爆发力,主打持久度,每个月平行比较,在TOP100可见的范围内,EXO都是成绩更好的那个。

所以MMA就觉得自己简直机智啊,后面的数据大众不特别去研究看不到嘛,谁高谁低谁知道呢。Melon如果说防弹榜外的22首歌就是音源格外厉害,听完I need U大家还全都去反反复复听I need U 的Urban Mix和Remix,谁都没办法。比如说,年度专辑的另外22首歌就是一直排在101-122位进不了前百,但茶蛋的都排在200开外,那不就赢了吗?连在投票落后的百分比也一起盖过去了。

事实如此吗?

这里还有一张图。

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我尚不清楚这张图的数据来源,有了解的请赐教。

但以百大榜单的趋势推断,除非极特殊情况,这趋势没毛病。

再补充一张图吧,看得更清楚。这次把下载量翻盘的可能性也取消了。

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那么好了。

要么是百年不遇的极特殊情况,在下载量明显落后的同时防弹收录曲的流媒体成绩反超EXO三四倍,要么是统计出了问题,要么是评选方式和公开的不一样。

MMA要是说我们年度专辑的评选规则是“30%音源30%投票30%Billboard成绩10%评审”,那我们没话说,操作空间多,像MAMA这种分猪肉的,只要不是太夸张,大家睁一只眼闭一只眼也就过了。但MMA白纸黑字写着“70%音源+30%投票”,一边打着“我们很客观,我们只用数据说话”的旗号,一边把数据明显胜出的第一位晾在一边分猪肉,这就很难看了。

所以MMA也心虚了,胡七乱八给茶蛋塞了一堆奖:我们为了显示茶蛋依然总体水平高于防弹,就多给你们几个奖,舞蹈奖,网友人气奖,KakaoTalk Hot奖,都给你们,这样,你们比防弹总数拿得多,就可以了吧?

当然不可以。你一个音源奖的舞蹈奖谁稀罕?更正:有评论提醒melon颁发的是最佳舞曲奖,不是舞蹈奖,那么...比舞蹈奖稀罕一些,但依然是分猪肉奖没错吧。两个人气奖那是韩劳实名制实打实投出来的,不是你给的,是我们自己拿的。再说,茶蛋现在还是靠这些小奖项一点点补偿的高度吗?你怎么不干脆送几袋大米呢!

再说一次:我一直都信奉“名副其实”,不仅是团队奖赏的“名”要符合团队成绩的“实”,颁奖礼的“名”也要符合颁奖礼的“实”。你要是号称客观用数据说话,你就清清楚楚列出来,该给谁给谁,别怕得罪人;你要是想不得罪人分猪肉,就不要标榜自己权威客观值得信赖。

开局这么一闹,接下来就有两个很有意思的事情可以看了。

第一,接下来真正的三大赏怎么个分法?其实没有很多能分的了,就剩MAMA还是年专年艺年歌,看看是分三家还是分两家。金唱片一个音源大赏一个唱片大赏,首歌更是只有一个大赏,含金量一个比一个高,狭路相逢路一次比一次窄,看看大家是跟风MMA,还是把MMA单独丢出去接受群嘲呢?咱们拭目以待。

第二,MMA年专年艺年歌EXO也算是史无前例拿了大满贯了,今年还附赠了这么一个大惊喜,傻帽爸爸,EXO以后可以拒绝出席这个奖了吧?我觉得去年那种人不来奖也得颁给我们的方式挺好的。

好了,气撒撒就过了,花撒撒也散吧,还不去投票买专刷音源?都往前看吧。

鹅王说了:不要哭。

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